tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4330114585754884758.post5323689115450276798..comments2024-03-28T22:13:35.527-06:00Comments on Jim & Carole's Mexico Adventure: Teotihuacán: Palacio Tepantitla, abode of the priestsJim Cookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04923490491088874998noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4330114585754884758.post-4639852431986816842022-11-18T16:57:11.362-06:002022-11-18T16:57:11.362-06:00The evidence so far uncovered about the fall of Te...The evidence so far uncovered about the fall of Teotihuacán indicates that it was due to an internal uprising. The areas destroyed in the conflagration are almost entirely in the elite section, while the sections inhabited by the masses remained largely intact. <br /><br />The reason for the uprising is unknown. However, over the centuries the city had deforested the area so they could burn limestone to create lime to plaster their apartment blocks and great monuments. In the end, this may have created local climate change including long droughts that resulted in famines. <br /><br />It is possible that the inability of the priest-rulers to make the rains come discredited them and the elite class in general and caused a revolt by the starving population. Had the destruction been caused by external forces such as Chichimeca invaders, the rest of the city would have been burned rather than surviving largely intact. <br /><br />The non-elite areas continued to be inhabited for another 50-100 years until those areas were also abandoned. One theory is that some of Teotihuacán's population may have migrated to the area around Tula and mixed with newly arriving Chichimeca to create the Toltec civilization.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4330114585754884758.post-52451816710671501192022-11-18T16:37:13.312-06:002022-11-18T16:37:13.312-06:00The Aztecs definitely spoke Nahuatl. By the way, t...The Aztecs definitely spoke Nahuatl. By the way, the Aztecs never called themselves Aztecs. That name was coined in the 19th century by Alexander Humboldt. Many of the Chichimeca tribe (including the Aztecs) spoke Nahuatl, although there were probably various dialects.<br /><br />The Aztecs referred to themselves as Mexica (May-shee-ka), as did everyone else in prehispanic Mexico. The Mexica were originally a Chichimeca tribe, one of many that migrated from the north of Mexico during the centuries that followed the collapse of Teotihuacán. <br /><br />They were latecomers, historically, and were considered as not much better than hobos by the civilized people of the Valley of Mexico when they showed up. They gained power by serving as mercenaries in the conflicts between local city states around Lake Texcoco.<br /><br />As to the Toltecs, there are some theories that they were a mixture of newly arriving Chichimeca and refugees from the Teotihuacán collapse. In such a case, it is possible that the Toltecs may have spoken some version of Nahuatl, but this is only speculation. At this time, no one knows what they called themselves or their capital city. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4330114585754884758.post-78843549454322914082022-11-18T04:37:13.157-06:002022-11-18T04:37:13.157-06:00Jim, I learn in some book that the chichimecas spo...Jim, I learn in some book that the chichimecas spoke nahua like the the called toltecas, and the later arrived aztecas too (nahuatl). Do I am right?. Dirian-chorotegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16108667986473163347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4330114585754884758.post-15062053941766978182022-11-18T04:26:18.790-06:002022-11-18T04:26:18.790-06:00Thanks for your time and knowledge Jim. Let me as...Thanks for your time and knowledge Jim. Let me ask you some please: who do you think did destroy Teotihuacan?, Chichimecas people?, Toltecas?. Where Tula's people from Teotihuacán like Xochicalco?. Sorry to bother with so many questions Dirian-chorotegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16108667986473163347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4330114585754884758.post-51455668176074401362022-11-13T15:33:49.575-06:002022-11-13T15:33:49.575-06:00Hi Dirian-chorotega,
To answer your questions:
F...Hi Dirian-chorotega,<br />To answer your questions: <br /><br />First, the language at Teotihuacán was not Nahautl. That language was used by migrants from the northern deserts who didn't arrive for several hundred years after Teotihuacán fell. In fact, no one knows what language the Teotihuacanos spoke, or even what they called their city, which was given its name by the Aztecs, 600 years after the city fell.<br /><br />The rain god worshipped at Teotihuacán was probably one of the oldest gods in Mesoamerica, dating back at least 8000 years to the beginning of agriculture. However, Tlaloc was the name that Nahautl speakers gave him. Similarly, Chachihuitlicue is a Nahuatl name and there are no depictions of a Moon God or Goddess that have been discovered in the city, so it is unlikely that people at Teotihuacán worshipped her . <br /><br />Recently, the ruins of a temple to the Fire God were found at the top of the Temple of the Sun. The Fire God is possibly the oldest god in the Mesoamerican pantheon. His worship may even pre-date the arrival of humans in the Western Hemisphere. The presence of a temple to him means that it is possible that the Fire God was the inspiration for the building of what we today call the Temple of the Sun. But, no one knows.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4330114585754884758.post-67604002968027851152022-11-10T07:55:24.245-06:002022-11-10T07:55:24.245-06:00amador.julio@yahoo.comamador.julio@yahoo.comDirian-chorotegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16108667986473163347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4330114585754884758.post-41225910705937112162022-11-10T07:54:53.382-06:002022-11-10T07:54:53.382-06:00Hi Jim, you know a lot. Let me ask you two things...Hi Jim, you know a lot. Let me ask you two things. Could be the name of the mayor pirámides about we know like Tlaloc and Chalchiutlicue instead sun-moon?.<br />Do you think the mayor language used in Teotihuacán was nahuatl?<br />Thank you so much <br />Dirian-chorotegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16108667986473163347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4330114585754884758.post-62030647577294220772017-08-24T21:15:29.115-05:002017-08-24T21:15:29.115-05:00Just awesome Jim. Thank you. I am reminded of Heir...Just awesome Jim. Thank you. I am reminded of Heironymous Bosch (big sic). Just to see the best murals how long would you reccomend? Thx, Davidborderreiverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08748728284321991604noreply@blogger.com